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2 hours ago, debbru said:

Thank you for your reply, I used hot melt glue & I glued yesterday afternoon 

Use a hair dryer to soften the glue and wiggle a metal putty knife or palette knife or any kind of thin-blade under the shingle to pop it off. 

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If it is not too late and you plan on keeping the house by a sunny window, I would change to any glue but hot glue.  Roofs tend to melt in the sun when hot glue is applied. That's why we typically advise against it.

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35 minutes ago, debbru said:

When trying to remove Shinlges with a hairdryer, do you hold the hairdryer while removing the Shingles

It depends on whether you can hold the hair dryer/ heat gun in one hand and the putty knife (or whatever you're using to remove them with) in the other at the same time, but not use them at the same time.

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Be careful your hair dryer coils inside can heat up fast. Don't want to call the miniature firehouse. Lol

I used a clothing iron before to remove my shingles. Used the steam setting to loosen the glue then scraped with putty knife. Might be a better way, I don't know. 

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31 minutes ago, debbru said:

When gluing shingles onto the attic roof, can anyone tell me if they start on the edge & work your way across to the valley

I'd start the first row at the edge and work inward toward the valley to assure a nice, clean edge. The the last shingle in the row can be clipped to fit the angle.

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1 minute ago, KathieB said:

I'd start the first row at the edge and work inward toward the valley to assure a nice, clean edge. The the last shingle in the row can be clipped to fit the angle.

Thank you for your reply, would you do all the rows from the edge & work inwards

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Thank you for your reply, would you do all the rows from the edge & work inwards

Yes. For the second row I'd begin with a half shingle, so the shingles on this row would be offset, not directly above the ones in the first row. Then on the third row begin with a full shingle, fourth row a half shingle ... and so on.

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24 minutes ago, KathieB said:

Yes. For the second row I'd begin with a half shingle, so the shingles on this row would be offset, not directly above the ones in the first row. Then on the third row begin with a full shingle, fourth row a half shingle ... and so on.

Would you mind sending me ab example please 

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You don't indicate what kind of shingles you're using, but here is a primer on basic shingling. I'm sure other members will be able to add to the hints list. It's probably more information than you need, but I'm on a roll! :) The diagram is for a real house, so ignore the measurements and the felt layer, but maybe it will help illustrate the offset pattern described above. Some hints:

1) glue a piece of strip wood along the eave (bottom) edge, so the first row of shingles is slightly slanted for a more realistic look overall, where the illustration shows a starter strip. It will be covered by the first row of shingles.

2) Don't let the first row hang below the edge of the eave for two reasons -- real roof shingles don't hang over and the dollhouse shingles will tend to break off if they hang over.

3) There is no need to smear glue all over the shingle. A line of glue at the top (where the real shingle shows an adhesive strip), is all that's needed and will help prevent warping if the shingles are thin.

4) There are various theories as to which glue to use. Wood glue, white craft glue (not school glue, which is water soluble), a quick grab glue, hot glue, Liquid Nails and E-6000 are the most popular. Use whatever you have and are comfortable using. With the E-6000, be sure to work in a room with good circulation; it produces fumes.

5) Some folks glue a couple of rows and then tape them down with masking or painter's tape while they dry. Or cover with a piece of waxed paper to prevent sticking and clamp a board in place to hold them down. That's optional, depending on how a particular project is going. It's more useful when using a water based glue.

6) Painting the roof close to the color of the shingles before starting the shingling is a good idea. No matter how well you butt the shingles, tiny bits of the under roof will peek out and be distracting.

7) If you're going to stain the shingles, consider doing it before shingling. Two same-size, toss-out aluminum baking pans, one with holes punched in the bottom, like a sieve, can be used. Put the stain in the pan without the holes. Put the shingles (or part of them - don't crowd) in the sieve. Lower the sieve into the stain bath and leave it there (gently stirring to be sure the stain reaches all) until the desired shade is reached. Then remove the sieve and let it drain into the bottom pan, dump the shingles out onto newspaper and/or paper towels and spread them out to dry. Some may curl a bit; they generally flatten out again as they dry. Don't worry about irregularities in color among the shingles; it will add to the reality.

8) Other roof treatments include painting with craft acrylics or interior latex house paint or imitating asphalt shingles with a stone-finish spray paint. Asphalt shingles don't need painting. 

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17 hours ago, KathieB said:

You don't indicate what kind of shingles you're using, but here is a primer on basic shingling. I'm sure other members will be able to add to the hints list. It's probably more information than you need, but I'm on a roll! :) The diagram is for a real house, so ignore the measurements and the felt layer, but maybe it will help illustrate the offset pattern described above. Some hints:

1) glue a piece of strip wood along the eave (bottom) edge, so the first row of shingles is slightly slanted for a more realistic look overall, where the illustration shows a starter strip. It will be covered by the first row of shingles.

2) Don't let the first row hang below the edge of the eave for two reasons -- real roof shingles don't hang over and the dollhouse shingles will tend to break off if they hang over.

3) There is no need to smear glue all over the shingle. A line of glue at the top (where the real shingle shows an adhesive strip), is all that's needed and will help prevent warping if the shingles are thin.

4) There are various theories as to which glue to use. Wood glue, white craft glue (not school glue, which is water soluble), a quick grab glue, hot glue, Liquid Nails and E-6000 are the most popular. Use whatever you have and are comfortable using. With the E-6000, be sure to work in a room with good circulation; it produces fumes.

5) Some folks glue a couple of rows and then tape them down with masking or painter's tape while they dry. Or cover with a piece of waxed paper to prevent sticking and clamp a board in place to hold them down. That's optional, depending on how a particular project is going. It's more useful when using a water based glue.

6) Painting the roof close to the color of the shingles before starting the shingling is a good idea. No matter how well you butt the shingles, tiny bits of the under roof will peek out and be distracting.

7) If you're going to stain the shingles, consider doing it before shingling. Two same-size, toss-out aluminum baking pans, one with holes punched in the bottom, like a sieve, can be used. Put the stain in the pan without the holes. Put the shingles (or part of them - don't crowd) in the sieve. Lower the sieve into the stain bath and leave it there (gently stirring to be sure the stain reaches all) until the desired shade is reached. Then remove the sieve and let it drain into the bottom pan, dump the shingles out onto newspaper and/or paper towels and spread them out to dry. Some may curl a bit; they generally flatten out again as they dry. Don't worry about irregularities in color among the shingles; it will add to the reality.

8) Other roof treatments include painting with craft acrylics or interior latex house paint or imitating asphalt shingles with a stone-finish spray paint. Asphalt shingles don't need painting. 

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Thank you for the diagram. I've attached a picture of the cottage I'm constructing & on the roof where I've marked, how do you put shingles on would you start from the outside & work in to the centre or from the centre out? Also I live in Australia & could you tell me where I a dealer would be that specialises in accessories for dollshouses

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I've attached a picture of the cottage I'm constructing & on the roof where I've marked, how do you put shingles on would you start from the outside & work in to the centre or from the centre out? Also I live in Australia & could you tell me where I a dealer would be that specialises in accessories for dollshouses

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Debbie, for shingling roofs I begin at the bottom edge and work up, and from the outer straight side inward towards any "seams" where sections of roof join.  I can't help you out on locating miniature stockists in Oz, but we have several members who live there who might be able to help you.

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6 hours ago, debbru said:

Thank you for the diagram. I've attached a picture of the cottage I'm constructing & on the roof where I've marked, how do you put shingles on would you start from the outside & work in to the centre or from the centre out? Also I live in Australia & could you tell me where I a dealer would be that specialises in accessories for dollshouses

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Yes, start at the outer edge and work inward. Note how this illustration shows the singles overhanging the edge of the roof. Some folks do it that way, some make the shingles flush with the edge of the roof. The latter is better if children will be playing with the house; less likely to snap them off.

Like Holly, I'm not aware of sources for mini furniture and accessories in Australia. I know that our Australian members often mention having to wait a long time for overseas delivery of items. Hopefully they will weigh in here soon with better news. :) 

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How I would do it?

  • Measure increments up front edge
  • Use combination square to draw horizontal lines
  • Glue a starter stick at the bottom to lift the edge of the 1st shingle
  • Glue shingles from the bottom front edge working back & up (trim as needed)

The comb. sqr. ruler slides in & out so you can butt the ruler right to the corner & still have the square flush up against the front wall. (90 degrees)

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What some people do is make a cardboard template of the roof. Glue the shingles on it, in this case from right to left. Then cut the angles after all of the shingles are attached. Then glue the entire shingled board onto the roof.

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13 hours ago, debbru said:

I've attached a picture of the cottage I'm constructing & on the roof where I've marked, how do you put shingles on would you start from the outside & work in to the centre or from the centre out? Also I live in Australia & could you tell me where I a dealer would be that specialises in accessories for dollshouses

I just noticed you have 2 topics called "Shingles".

Please see my drawing above.  

Just replace the wood shingles with mini asphalt shingles or facsimile. :) 

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7 hours ago, Sable said:

What some people do is make a cardboard template of the roof.

Yes, great idea Sable.

Debbie, the template idea is good for walls, floors & ceilings also.

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1 hour ago, mesp2k said:

Yes, great idea Sable.

Debbie, the template idea is good for walls, floors & ceilings also.

Agree. The next house I do from a kit, I am going to make trace of all walls, floors and roof before assembly.  

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