havanaholly Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Once you get it all sanded and the facings on the front, it should look better. You definitely want a flush fit on those facings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxenro Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 Yes sanding will even it all out. Both the front and back will be sanded flush plus the ends and sides as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatFord Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Miniatures in Marble said: The doublers are all glued. I did a quick mock up assembly to see how it looked. Not perfect but acceptable I guess. Then I sanded the shelf faces and inside faces of the doublers, places that would be near impossible to sand when it is assembled, and glued up and clamped the first one. Meanwhile I am starting the same process on the second one NOOOOW I understand the doublers. It makes sense. Thanks for showing all your steps. It's been quite helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxenro Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 A touch of filler and some sanding the outside and face will be veneer as Holly says we want a flat surface for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxenro Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 I was thinking of adding a second layer to the sides as I feel the uprights aren't thick enough for the American Empire styling. Thoughts (the new one is on the right) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanaholly Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 For 1:12 I really like the way the one on the left is proportioned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathieB Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I agree with Holly. Miniaturizing real life items is as much art as it is craft. What looks right in real life can look a bit clunky when miniaturized. Remember the mantra: smoke and mirrors It doesn't have to be real to look real. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanaholly Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Joel, you are off to such a great start, let me share the website of my very favorite mini furniture maker in the whole world and see what Kathie & I mean: http://www.artisticvision.com/soboleditions/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxenro Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 He is amazing isn’t he? Spent quite some time looking at his art A lot of his work is slightly earlier than what I am trying more Federal than Empire. Empire is more solid and blocky while Federal is refined and elegant. Say 1800 vs 1830. But I see what both of you mean about the need to scale down in miniatures as scale could look overscale The tricky part of this one will be making veneered molding. I am going to be building it up in strips using layers then mitering the strips. I think Duncan Phyfe could veneer a tennis ball but I am A novice. So I think I will leave well enough alone and move on to the next steps waiting on a veneer order so there might be a lag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanaholly Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Cheap emery boards are great for sanding mini moldings smooth, and then finish off with a crumpled brown paper bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sable Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I think you should ask Santa Claus for one of these: https://www.micromark.com/mini-powertool/-saws/table-saws 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FurMama Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Sable said: I think you should ask Santa Claus for one of these: https://www.micromark.com/mini-powertool/-saws/table-saws That little saw is awesome! I have one. Not sure if it is this current model as I've had it for years but I got mine from micromark. Works well and doesn't terrify me like my RL table saw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keifer Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I would like Santa to get me one of those but evidently I’m on the naughty list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sable Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 12 hours ago, Keifer said: I would like Santa to get me one of those but evidently I’m on the naughty list. I think there is still time to redeem yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxenro Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 No electric tools for me. I like the human powered aspect of my hobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxenro Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 Molding for Section 3 - Base There are at least three methods for making molding. One is to buy ready made but unfortunately no one makes what I want. The second is to use an appropriately shaped shaper bit and use it to shape the edge of a piece of wood. A third method, which I will use here, is to assemble it from stript of wood sandwich style. This method also allows me to easily veneer parts of the molding. The picture shows the profile and dimensions of the assembly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FurMama Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 This schematic intrigues me, cannot wait to see the real deal. Can only imagine it will be a quite lovely addition to the finished piece. And while I see the points about thickness and scale above, as a carpenter's daughter I lean to the thick/substantial version of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanaholly Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 53 minutes ago, FurMama said: This schematic intrigues me, cannot wait to see the real deal. Can only imagine it will be a quite lovely addition to the finished piece. And while I see the points about thickness and scale above, as a carpenter's daughter I lean to the thick/substantial version of things. Thick and substantial aren't really necessary nor look particularly "right" in 1:12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathieB Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, havanaholly said: Thick and substantial aren't really necessary nor look particularly "right" in 1:12. It doesn't always look particularly right in full scale, either. My dad was of the school that believed that if a 1x2 would do the job, a 2x4 would be better. The resulting items were sometimes problematical. He built a 4' x 8' kitchen table and decoupaged its surface with recipes Mom had collected from friends, family, and the Chicago Tribune home sections. It was a surprise, done in secret, so none of us had a chance to suggest that something a bit smaller might be more useful. It was so big that it took up nearly all of the available space; it was difficult to maneuver around it. It replaced a very sturdily built (think 2x4s) round picnic table with curved benches that left me with permanent bruises near my knees as they didn't quite fit under the table. It was also too big for the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxenro Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 I gave the sides a lot of thought and found what I think is a solution to both issues, but I am saving it for the next pair I build after these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxenro Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 As an aside this is what I am thinking for the next pair I make (although I have a sofa and pair of chairs planned first) converting the front to pilasters so the side isn't just a slab and the whole thing looks too thick. I think the drawing shows it but the center of the side would have some depth 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanaholly Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 That actually looks more like what I think of as American Empire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxenro Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 Agreed it is a small change but changes the tenor of the piece. These two are more tests the next ones (hopefully) will be keepers. I am thinking with a matching box sofa it would do the back wall of my small Greek Revival office building something like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathieB Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Miniatures in Marble said: it would do the back wall of my small Greek Revival office building something like this Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxenro Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 This is the crotch veneer I purchased just waiting on it to arrive. I will be using the crotch portion on the sides and top and the striped portion on the molding. At least that is the current plan sometimes reality intrudes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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