CatColorado Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 I was wondering if anyone is interested in working along with me while I build some trolls. I have two started, but I was thinking it would be more fun to build with others. We could post project pics here and share questions and ideas. I am making my interpretation of a troll, but I'd love to see what everyone else comes up with. I can list the materials I am using, along with suggested tools. Any takers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minis On The Edge Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 PLEASE count me in!! I would LOVE to learn how to!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPCullen Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 ME ME ME ME ME! Especially if you start on a weekend, or Friday night, hint hint. Gonna get a parts list going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallhouset Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I want to learn how to do that too. But I may be a silent participant in this. The last time I tried to make a doll it turned out looking like a troll and it was supposed to look like a little girl. What week-end night are we gonna attempt this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatColorado Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 Cool! I'll come up with a complete supply list by tomorrow afternoon. I'm using alot of found objects and things from nature. The only special thing you'll need is clay if you don't already have some on hand. What would be best, Friday or Saturday night? We could start Friday and finish on Saturday, nothing says we have to finish in one night. I'm saying this because some steps require you to let the glue dry as well as baking the clay. Here's some things to get ready: Tacky glue Polymer Clay- your choice of color. I'm using earth tones, greens and browns. A few thin sticks, the knarlier the better scraps of fabric a popsicle stick or something similar that you can use to sculpt optional: *a polymer mold that has faces, if you have it. They don't have to be human faces and don't worry about scale. I'm using one with sun faces. *talcum powder for the mold (if you use one) *string, floss, viscose, broom - anything that can be used as hair *Natural materials such as bark, dried leaves, twigs, moss, seeds, pods, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minis On The Edge Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I guess all I need is some clay. Do you like FIMO or sculpy better?? Which is better for a beginner. I have NEVER used polymer clay. Is it safe to use my oven that I cook in?? I am asking these questions because I remember seeing these question before but, because I was not interested in it then......I sorta skipped it :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatColorado Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 I use my regular oven and as long as you have proper ventilation you should be good to go. Do you have a gas or an electric oven? I use Sculpey because it is softer and easier on my hands, as well as having a nice texture. Many people prefer Fimo because it is firmer to work, it's a matter of personal taste. Most, if not all, food and doll artists use fimo. You might want to invest in a tile of sorts to bake your clay upon. I use the back of a baking pan that I don't use for cooking, which might not be the best surface to use. Other useful materials: clean Utility knife for cutting clay scissors Bamboo skewers or an awl craft paints and brushes pipe cleaners assorted small beads (optional), I use them for eyes Matte acrylic spray sealer Note: If you plan to use your figures outside, use waterproof glues instead of the tacky glue. And, if you get the Aleene's tacky glue in the silver bottle...it really DOES dry in a matter of seconds. Great stuff. I think that covers it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallhouset Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 I know what all of the things on the materials list is for except what are the sticks for? I ask so i find the right size. As for when,and time is ok with me. Tracy, you can use a piece of glass to bake on if you don't have a tile. Just plan picture glass works. I like using Fimo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuttiwebgal Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 oooooo sounds like fun! count me in! I think I have almost everything on the list without shopping! :lol: just tell me when! nutti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPCullen Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 GULP! Bake? Tile? Oven? Awl? You guys are making me nervous. And where do I get clay and stuff? As you can see, at least one of us is a real dummy who has NEVER done anything like this, so I need more help ... How about some pictures of what I need? Would a toaster oven work? I think I have one in the attic here. Also, I can't use an exacto knife because I cut myself with it. Can I use a razorblade instead? I don't cut myself with those--don't know why, I just don't ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuttiwebgal Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 LindaC!! STOP!!! B) calm down! we are your friends! :lol: we want you to make a troll we will help you! breathe in....and out!! ;) now keep repeating till calmer! ;) lol it does sound like fun.....most of all the things on list can be found at Walmarts or a Hobby Lobby or Micheals. a toaster oven works good for this and I use one of my glass piepan which I use for nothing else now. plenty of room for multiple items. laterzzz nutti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatColorado Posted July 8, 2005 Author Share Posted July 8, 2005 The sticks I am using for the armatures but you can substitute pipe cleaners if you want. In the first one, the sticks act as a design element, but in the second they are not so apparent. I would say look for sticks that are a sturdy 1/4" diameter and that have interesting bumps, curves or forks in them. Nothing shorter than 6" because it's harder to adjust the height if the stick is too short. You can always cut a longer stick down. Linda, an awl is just a metal pointy stick. A bamboo skewer (think shish kabob) works just as well. Heck, you could even use a pencil if you want. A razor blade will work fine, I use an old steak knife. I think I have some pictures of my supplies on my computer already. I'll send them to you. Remember: trolls are not known for their beauty, so the more mistakes you make, the better they will look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatColorado Posted July 9, 2005 Author Share Posted July 9, 2005 I'm going to postpone the start of this until tomorrow 5pm Mountain Time (7pm East Coast). Hopefully everyone is okay with that. I didn't sleep well last night and I really need to go to bed early. I'm verging on incoherance. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPCullen Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 I'm OK with it--especially since I haven't gotten a chance to go and get the materials that I need. Get some sleep tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallhouset Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 It's ok with me too. I still have to get some sticks. Don't panic Linda, I'm by no means a pro with fimo but its fun to play with. Think of it as adult play dough that doesn't dry out. What part of the forum will we be on? Blogs, Swaps. I'm not sure how this part works. Will we be able to see the trolls done step by step? I'm not as computer savy as the rest of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatColorado Posted July 9, 2005 Author Share Posted July 9, 2005 I'll put the pictures in with the text right here in the thread. When everything is done, I will move the pictures to the gallery. That's why I hope everyone will post pictures of their attempts, I think it would be great to have a Rogue's Gallery of Trolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minis On The Edge Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 I got every thingy on the list Ruby :lol: I went and bought a clay tile from Michales too. So I will take pictures and post them as the troll takes form . That should be cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatColorado Posted July 9, 2005 Author Share Posted July 9, 2005 These are the colors I am using on the first troll. I mixed the two colors together by squishing them together until the clay was mostly brown with faint green swirls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatColorado Posted July 9, 2005 Author Share Posted July 9, 2005 I'm using a mold for the face on this first guy/gal. I'd never used a commercial mold before (I have made and used my own though) so I thought it would be fun to try one for this project. I used a ball of clay and imprinted the face on one side. The clay ball was about the thickness of my thumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallhouset Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Looks like its just you and me Cat. I'm using green and flesh with a little brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatColorado Posted July 9, 2005 Author Share Posted July 9, 2005 I wanted the twigs to show on this fella, so I cut the face ball partially in half and put the twig into the crease. Then I used my finger to smooth the clay to the stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatColorado Posted July 9, 2005 Author Share Posted July 9, 2005 I baked the head at this point, so I wouldn't end up smushing everything. While that cooks and cools. Here's a head that I completely sculpted by hand. Hi Terri! I'm sure the others will show up. Will you post a pic of the mixture you are using? This second head is similar to the first except that I added bone colored clay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallhouset Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Ready for the next step when you are. I'll post one later. my color is sorta a dull lime green. I started with leaf green, added flesh and some translucent,and a ball of light brown so it has some brown streaks in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatColorado Posted July 10, 2005 Author Share Posted July 10, 2005 That was odd, I was just booted off. Ah well, back to the troll! These next few pictures will show the steps I took to sculpt the second head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatColorado Posted July 10, 2005 Author Share Posted July 10, 2005 For the eyelids, I made two, thin, slug-like threads of clay and stuck them over the eyeholes. I blended the edges with my finger and a skewer. I used beads for eyeballs by pushing them into the clay. The ears were made from two rectangular pieces of clay. After attaching the rectangles to the head, I pinched the tips to form points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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